{"id":10238,"date":"2012-03-13T09:00:01","date_gmt":"2012-03-13T09:00:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.badreputation.org.uk\/?p=10238"},"modified":"2012-03-13T09:00:01","modified_gmt":"2012-03-13T09:00:01","slug":"gamer-diary-assassins-creed-3-reactions-roundtable","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/badreputation.org.uk\/2012\/03\/13\/gamer-diary-assassins-creed-3-reactions-roundtable\/","title":{"rendered":"[Gamer
Diary] – Assassin’s Creed 3: Reactions
Roundtable"},"content":{"rendered":"
<p>
  Three short months after the release of Ezio\u2019s last dance,
  <strong
    >Assassin\u2019s Creed: Revelations<\/strong>, and we&#8217;ve been graced
    by the presence of the first
    <strong
      >Assassin\u2019s Creed III<\/strong> reveal.\u00a0 So Stephen B, Markgraf,
      Miranda and I had a chatette.<\/p>\n
      <p>
        First off: <a title=\"Assassin's Creed 3 reveal\"
        href=\"http:\/\/youtu.be\/amAVgQ8ef3g\" target=\"_blank\">go check out
        the trailer if you haven\u2019t seen it already.<\/a><\/p>\n
      </p>
      <p>
        <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/amAVgQ8ef3g\"
        frameborder=\"0\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n
      </p>
      <p>
        <strong
          >Stephen B:<\/strong> Well, I&#8217;m a Brit, and that probably
          colours my reaction to the setting. I&#8217;m just not invested in how
          glorious the War of Independence was, and killing the dastardly
          English isn&#8217;t really as exciting to me as Assassins vs.
          Templars.<\/p>\n
          <p>
            My first reaction was concern for the fighting: is going up against
            guns with a small hand-axe really going to work? \u00a0The moves
            lacked the skill and finesse of previous styles, although
            they&#8217;re better on a repeat viewing.\u00a0 Plus, I am a bit
            disappointed that no-one else is <a
            href=\"http:\/\/www.badreputation.org.uk\/2012\/01\/09\/found-feminism-mass-effect-3-pre-order-box\/\">following
            <strong
              >Mass Effect 3<\/strong>&#8216;s lead<\/a> and doing female
              version trailers. Or&#8230; having
              <em
                >even one female<\/em> in the whole trailer.<\/p>\n
                <p>
                  All this grand posturing is about English vs. American white
                  guys only and the protagonist is of Native American descent,
                  so while you&#8217;re blowing all those trumpets you&#8217;re
                  ignoring the incredible ongoing &amp; future genocide. The
                  game
                  <em
                    >might<\/em> highlight how his people are treated as part of
                    the story, but that&#8217;s not clear from the
                    trailer.<\/p>\n
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                    <p>
                      <strong
                        >Miranda:<\/strong> Would it be possible to have a
                        leading lady in this franchise? I&#8217;d love that
                        &#8211; I like the <a
                        href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Orlando:_A_Biography\"><strong
                          >Orlando<\/strong><\/a>-esque idea of the protagonist
                          being different genders through time &#8211; but
                          isn&#8217;t <a
                          href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Desmond_Miles\">Desmond<\/a>
                          always the person, er, &#8220;wearing&#8221; the
                          history? So I imagine we&#8217;d have to lose him as
                          well; they&#8217;d have to create a female equivalent?
                          Even without that leap, I&#8217;m personally hoping
                          there are less Sex Assassin type ladies this time
                          around, and more, y&#8217;know, female
                          <em
                            >characters<\/em>.<\/p>\n
                            <p>
                              Readers might remember the <a
                              href=\"http:\/\/www.badreputation.org.uk\/2011\/01\/19\/assassin%E2%80%99s-creed-the-frank-miller-effect-strikes-again\/\">last
                              time we covered Assassin&#8217;s Creed on here and
                              talked about the Sex Assassin NPC thing<\/a>
                              &#8211; Ubisoft Workshop staff actually read the
                              post, which featured Markgraf&#8217;s own designs
                              for female assassins, and gave it a friendly
                              shoutout, which was nice to see (sadly, when I try
                              to find <a
                              href=\"http:\/\/www.ubiworkshop.com\/2011\/05\/25\/home-made-assassin\/\">the
                              shoutout<\/a>, it&#8217;s been archived and
                              doesn&#8217;t seem to have the hyperlinks anymore.
                              Shame, that &#8211; we were originally hyperlinked
                              from &#8220;we thought this would quell some
                              people&#8217;s fears on where we stand on
                              important subjects&#8221;). We then had a bit of
                              feedback from people who pointed out that there
                              are female assassins in
                              <strong
                                >ACII<\/strong> you can deploy places, so then
                                we made <a
                                href=\"http:\/\/www.badreputation.org.uk\/2011\/02\/08\/assassins-creed-postscript-and-haystack-challenge\/\">another
                                post to address that a bit<\/a>, because the
                                point is, we&#8217;re aware of that, but
                                it&#8217;s not like there isn&#8217;t room for a
                                good deal of progress. <\/p>\n
                                <p>
                                  <strong
                                    >Rai:<\/strong> I too am concerned about how
                                    they\u2019ll fit this protagonist into the
                                    grand scheme of things: after all
                                    historically it&#8217;s one set of
                                    oppressive zealots complaining about being
                                    oppressed (by the English) without a shadow
                                    of irony as they murder and destroy the
                                    indigenous population.\u00a0 Given the
                                    protagonist&#8217;s ethnicity, one has to
                                    wonder how he&#8217;s on either side of this
                                    war, given the racist sentiments aimed at
                                    Native Americans (in that era and
                                    beyond).<\/p>\n
                                    <p>
                                      On the anti-Brit theme, I have my doubts
                                      that it&#8217;ll be handled appropriately
                                      or even accurately &#8211; there are
                                      tendencies when anything American is
                                      involved for Brits to be portrayed as some
                                      sort of devil spawn (which is getting
                                      pretty dull).<\/p>\n
                                    </p>
                                    <p>
                                      I&#8217;m pretty peeved it is
                                      <strong
                                        ><em
                                          >still <\/em><\/strong>a dude.\u00a0
                                          What happened to all the stuff at the
                                          end of
                                          <strong
                                            >Brotherhood<\/strong> when Minerva
                                            was telling Desmond to go and find
                                            this &#8216;other assassin&#8217;
                                            he&#8217;d need to beat the
                                            Templars?\u00a0 Minerva was using
                                            female pronouns to talk about this
                                            other assassin &#8211; so, where is
                                            she?<\/p>\n
                                            <p>
                                              Changing tack slightly: the
                                              trees(!) &#8211; in the trailer we
                                              see the guy free-running among the
                                              branches. This could be an
                                              interesting switch from the
                                              buildings we&#8217;re used to thus
                                              far.<\/p>\n
                                            </p>
                                            <p>
                                              Also did anyone else hear the
                                              theory that
                                              <strong
                                                >AC3<\/strong> would be set in
                                                the Far East?\u00a0 If so&#8230;
                                                would Far East have been a
                                                better setting than 1777
                                                America?\u00a0 I think so, but
                                                then America is of very little
                                                interest to me as it all feels
                                                quite egomaniacal: could the
                                                setting of
                                                <strong
                                                  >AC3<\/strong> be a ploy to
                                                  get more US fans?\u00a0 Or to
                                                  bring the centre of attention
                                                  back on to the USA, as is the
                                                  tendency of
                                                  <em
                                                    >so many<\/em> games?<\/p>\n
                                                    <p>
                                                      <strong
                                                        >Stephen B:<\/strong>
                                                        Well, I suppose the
                                                        previous games were
                                                        quite brave in that the
                                                        first one had you
                                                        playing a medieval Arab,
                                                        and the second went to
                                                        Italy with no mention of
                                                        the US. So it could be
                                                        okay that they do
                                                        <em
                                                          >one<\/em> in the
                                                          USA&#8230; but the Far
                                                          East would have been a
                                                          lot more exciting for
                                                          me.<\/p>\n
                                                          <p>
                                                            <strong
                                                              >Markgraf:<\/strong>
                                                              As per Rai&#8217;s
                                                              reaction,
                                                              I&#8217;m baffled
                                                              as to why our hero
                                                              isn&#8217;t a
                                                              woman, still
                                                              &#8211; I mean,
                                                              come on,
                                                              it&#8217;s 2012,
                                                              surely we know
                                                              that women exist
                                                              by now and that
                                                              it&#8217;s fine to
                                                              have them as
                                                              protagonists?<\/p>\n
                                                              <p>
                                                                But my angle is
                                                                this one:
                                                                I&#8217;m keen
                                                                to see people of
                                                                colour
                                                                represented as
                                                                actual hero-y
                                                                heroes in games,
                                                                because
                                                                it&#8217;s damn
                                                                rare, it&#8217;s
                                                                <em
                                                                  >still<\/em>
                                                                  damn rare, and
                                                                  that&#8217;s
                                                                  frankly an
                                                                  embarrassment
                                                                  to
                                                                  civilisation
                                                                  as a
                                                                  whole.\u00a0
                                                                  So I&#8217;m
                                                                  delighted,
                                                                  actually, to
                                                                  see that
                                                                  Ratohnhak\u00e9:ton
                                                                  is mixed race
                                                                  and doing his
                                                                  bit for First
                                                                  Nations people
                                                                  in
                                                                  games.<\/p>\n
                                                                  <p>
                                                                    The
                                                                    <strong
                                                                      >Assassin&#8217;s
                                                                      Creed<\/strong>
                                                                      franchise
                                                                      is doing
                                                                      itself
                                                                      quite
                                                                      proud of
                                                                      multiculturalism
                                                                      in
                                                                      games:\u00a0it
                                                                      started
                                                                      the series
                                                                      with you
                                                                      playing
                                                                      Altaiir
                                                                      ibn
                                                                      La-Ahad,
                                                                      who is a
                                                                      Syrian
                                                                      Arab, born
                                                                      and
                                                                      raised,
                                                                      which is
                                                                      literally
                                                                      one of the
                                                                      only
                                                                      examples I
                                                                      can think
                                                                      of where
                                                                      the
                                                                      playable
                                                                      protagonist
                                                                      is
                                                                      Arab.\u00a0
                                                                      But
                                                                      you&#8217;ll
                                                                      all
                                                                      remember
                                                                      that
                                                                      Altaiir
                                                                      had an
                                                                      American
                                                                      voice, and
                                                                      if you
                                                                      peered
                                                                      under his
                                                                      hood, it
                                                                      was
                                                                      Desmond
                                                                      doing an
                                                                      Altaiir
                                                                      cosplay.\u00a0
                                                                      So, you
                                                                      had a
                                                                      character
                                                                      with the
                                                                      right sort
                                                                      of name
                                                                      for the
                                                                      place he
                                                                      was in,
                                                                      but
                                                                      without
                                                                      the right
                                                                      sort of
                                                                      voice, and
                                                                      not really
                                                                      the right
                                                                      sort of
                                                                      face,
                                                                      either,
                                                                      which was
                                                                      pretty
                                                                      much
                                                                      ethnicity-trimming,
                                                                      if you ask
                                                                      me.<\/p>\n
                                                                      <p>
                                                                        No-one
                                                                        can
                                                                        possibly
                                                                        have any
                                                                        problems
                                                                        with the
                                                                        representation
                                                                        of First
                                                                        Nations
                                                                        people
                                                                        &#8211;
                                                                        they&#8217;re
                                                                        under-represented
                                                                        and
                                                                        it&#8217;s
                                                                        uncontroversial
                                                                        to
                                                                        represent
                                                                        them as
                                                                        heroes
                                                                        &#8211;
                                                                        and
                                                                        that&#8217;s
                                                                        <em
                                                                          >great<\/em>,
                                                                          but I
                                                                          do
                                                                          feel
                                                                          bad
                                                                          for
                                                                          Altaiir,
                                                                          the
                                                                          Arab
                                                                          hero
                                                                          that
                                                                          never
                                                                          really
                                                                          was.<\/p>\n
                                                                          <p>
                                                                            I&#8217;m
                                                                            not
                                                                            that
                                                                            thrilled
                                                                            by
                                                                            the
                                                                            setting,
                                                                            either,
                                                                            to
                                                                            be
                                                                            honest.\u00a0
                                                                            For
                                                                            all
                                                                            the
                                                                            reasons
                                                                            we&#8217;ve
                                                                            mentioned
                                                                            (yet
                                                                            another
                                                                            America-centric
                                                                            game)
                                                                            but
                                                                            also
                                                                            because&#8230;
                                                                            I
                                                                            just
                                                                            want
                                                                            to
                                                                            see
                                                                            a
                                                                            more
                                                                            diverse
                                                                            range
                                                                            of
                                                                            ethnic
                                                                            backgrounds
                                                                            to
                                                                            playable
                                                                            characters,
                                                                            really.\u00a0
                                                                            So
                                                                            couldn&#8217;t
                                                                            we
                                                                            have
                                                                            wandered
                                                                            further
                                                                            afield
                                                                            than
                                                                            America
                                                                            for
                                                                            the
                                                                            third?<\/p>\n
                                                                          </p>
                                                                          <p>
                                                                            (And
                                                                            raise
                                                                            your
                                                                            hand
                                                                            if
                                                                            you&#8217;re
                                                                            bored
                                                                            of
                                                                            having
                                                                            The
                                                                            English!!!
                                                                            as
                                                                            villains
                                                                            in
                                                                            things&#8230;)<\/p>\n
                                                                          </p>
                                                                          <p>
                                                                            Oh,
                                                                            and
                                                                            I&#8217;m
                                                                            also
                                                                            excited
                                                                            that
                                                                            YOU
                                                                            CAN
                                                                            CLIMB
                                                                            TREES!!!!,
                                                                            yes.<\/p>\n
                                                                          </p>
                                                                          <p>
                                                                            <strong
                                                                              >Rai:<\/strong>
                                                                              I
                                                                              too
                                                                              am
                                                                              more
                                                                              than
                                                                              pleased
                                                                              that
                                                                              the
                                                                              <strong
                                                                                >AC<\/strong>
                                                                                franchise
                                                                                has
                                                                                done
                                                                                good
                                                                                things
                                                                                for
                                                                                protagonists
                                                                                of
                                                                                diverse
                                                                                ethnicity
                                                                                and
                                                                                to
                                                                                have
                                                                                another
                                                                                character
                                                                                in
                                                                                that
                                                                                trend
                                                                                is
                                                                                good;
                                                                                even
                                                                                better
                                                                                if
                                                                                he
                                                                                is
                                                                                actually
                                                                                his
                                                                                own
                                                                                self
                                                                                and
                                                                                not
                                                                                just
                                                                                Desmond-in-a-hood!\u00a0
                                                                                Their
                                                                                failings
                                                                                with
                                                                                portraying
                                                                                Altaiir
                                                                                appropriately
                                                                                will
                                                                                always
                                                                                stick
                                                                                in
                                                                                my
                                                                                mind
                                                                                though.<\/p>\n
                                                                                <p>
                                                                                  It
                                                                                  is
                                                                                  a
                                                                                  shame
                                                                                  it&#8217;s
                                                                                  not
                                                                                  a
                                                                                  woman
                                                                                  though,
                                                                                  and
                                                                                  it
                                                                                  is
                                                                                  a
                                                                                  shame
                                                                                  it&#8217;s
                                                                                  in
                                                                                  America
                                                                                  &#8211;
                                                                                  if
                                                                                  previous
                                                                                  form
                                                                                  is
                                                                                  anything
                                                                                  to
                                                                                  go
                                                                                  by,
                                                                                  we
                                                                                  may
                                                                                  end
                                                                                  up
                                                                                  with
                                                                                  a
                                                                                  trilogy
                                                                                  of
                                                                                  games
                                                                                  in
                                                                                  that
                                                                                  period,
                                                                                  and
                                                                                  I
                                                                                  suspect
                                                                                  they&#8217;ve
                                                                                  brought
                                                                                  it
                                                                                  home
                                                                                  to
                                                                                  America
                                                                                  so
                                                                                  they
                                                                                  can
                                                                                  more
                                                                                  easily
                                                                                  blend
                                                                                  into
                                                                                  Desmond
                                                                                  fighting
                                                                                  Templars
                                                                                  himself
                                                                                  in
                                                                                  the
                                                                                  present\/future.\u00a0
                                                                                  So
                                                                                  I
                                                                                  have
                                                                                  no
                                                                                  idea
                                                                                  where
                                                                                  on
                                                                                  earth
                                                                                  this
                                                                                  &#8216;she&#8217;
                                                                                  assassin
                                                                                  Minerva
                                                                                  was
                                                                                  banging
                                                                                  on
                                                                                  about
                                                                                  is
                                                                                  going
                                                                                  to
                                                                                  come
                                                                                  from.\u00a0
                                                                                  I
                                                                                  truly
                                                                                  hope
                                                                                  they
                                                                                  don&#8217;t
                                                                                  just
                                                                                  let
                                                                                  Desmond
                                                                                  find
                                                                                  her
                                                                                  and
                                                                                  then
                                                                                  she&#8217;s
                                                                                  an
                                                                                  unplayable
                                                                                  sidekick
                                                                                  character.<\/p>\n
                                                                                </p>
                                                                                <h3>
                                                                                  Conclusions:<\/h3>\n
                                                                                  <p>
                                                                                    <strong
                                                                                      >Miranda:<\/strong>
                                                                                      \u201cHurrah
                                                                                      for
                                                                                      more
                                                                                      beautiful
                                                                                      vertigo-inducing
                                                                                      rendering,
                                                                                      but
                                                                                      let&#8217;s
                                                                                      hope
                                                                                      there
                                                                                      are
                                                                                      some
                                                                                      women
                                                                                      NPCs
                                                                                      at
                                                                                      least
                                                                                      in
                                                                                      this
                                                                                      that
                                                                                      are
                                                                                      written
                                                                                      as
                                                                                      characters,
                                                                                      not
                                                                                      damsels
                                                                                      and
                                                                                      sex
                                                                                      machines!\u201d<\/p>\n
                                                                                      <p>
                                                                                        <strong
                                                                                          >Stephen
                                                                                          B:<\/strong>
                                                                                          \u201cPotential
                                                                                          racial
                                                                                          sensitivity
                                                                                          GOOD,
                                                                                          provided
                                                                                          they
                                                                                          stick
                                                                                          to
                                                                                          it.
                                                                                          Setting&#8217;s
                                                                                          a
                                                                                          bit
                                                                                          blah;
                                                                                          hoping
                                                                                          the
                                                                                          general
                                                                                          &#8216;Assassins
                                                                                          vs
                                                                                          Templars&#8217;
                                                                                          struggle
                                                                                          is
                                                                                          enough
                                                                                          of
                                                                                          a
                                                                                          hook
                                                                                          to
                                                                                          keep
                                                                                          me
                                                                                          interested.\u201d<\/p>\n
                                                                                          <p>
                                                                                            <strong
                                                                                              >Markgraf:<\/strong>
                                                                                              \u201cI
                                                                                              BET
                                                                                              THE
                                                                                              FANDOM
                                                                                              ARE
                                                                                              MORE
                                                                                              HAPPY
                                                                                              TO
                                                                                              ACCURATELY
                                                                                              REPRESENT
                                                                                              THIS
                                                                                              GUY&#8217;S
                                                                                              ETHNICITY
                                                                                              THAN
                                                                                              ALTAIIR&#8217;S
                                                                                              BECAUSE
                                                                                              HE
                                                                                              WON&#8217;T
                                                                                              BE
                                                                                              ALL
                                                                                              WHITEWASHED
                                                                                              IN-GAME
                                                                                              LOL\u201d<\/p>\n
                                                                                              <p>
                                                                                                <strong
                                                                                                  >Rai:<\/strong>
                                                                                                  \u201cWhere
                                                                                                  is
                                                                                                  my
                                                                                                  she-assassin?!\u00a0
                                                                                                  Good
                                                                                                  to
                                                                                                  see
                                                                                                  an
                                                                                                  appropriately
                                                                                                  portrayed
                                                                                                  non-white
                                                                                                  protagonist,
                                                                                                  but
                                                                                                  the
                                                                                                  American
                                                                                                  setting
                                                                                                  feels
                                                                                                  like
                                                                                                  a
                                                                                                  bit
                                                                                                  of
                                                                                                  a
                                                                                                  disappointment,
                                                                                                  and
                                                                                                  definitely
                                                                                                  poked
                                                                                                  my
                                                                                                  inner
                                                                                                  cynic
                                                                                                  with
                                                                                                  a
                                                                                                  very
                                                                                                  pointy
                                                                                                  stick.\u201d<\/p>\n<div
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                                                                                                                          Three
                                                                                                                          short
                                                                                                                          months
                                                                                                                          after
                                                                                                                          the
                                                                                                                          release
                                                                                                                          of
                                                                                                                          Ezio\u2019s
                                                                                                                          last
                                                                                                                          dance
                                                                                                                          and
                                                                                                                          we&#8217;ve
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                                                                                                                          the
                                                                                                                          presence
                                                                                                                          of
                                                                                                                          the
                                                                                                                          first
                                                                                                                          Assassin\u2019s
                                                                                                                          Creed
                                                                                                                          III
                                                                                                                          reveal.\u00a0
                                                                                                                          So
                                                                                                                          Stephen
                                                                                                                          B,
                                                                                                                          Markgraf,
                                                                                                                          Miranda
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