Comments on: An Alphabet of Feminism #12: L is for Lady /2010/12/20/an-alphabet-of-femininism-12-l-is-for-lady/ A feminist pop culture adventure Mon, 20 Dec 2010 23:51:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.6 By: Pet Jeffery /2010/12/20/an-alphabet-of-femininism-12-l-is-for-lady/#comment-522 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 23:51:25 +0000 http://www.badreputation.org.uk/?p=1557#comment-522 In reply to Hodge.

Yes, the English seem to venerate powerful women. Last summer, I was showing my Mexican friend round London and, explaining the statue of Boadicea at the end of Westminster Bridge, remarked “we English love our queens”.

Get well soon, Hodge.

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By: Pet Jeffery /2010/12/20/an-alphabet-of-femininism-12-l-is-for-lady/#comment-521 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 23:42:24 +0000 http://www.badreputation.org.uk/?p=1557#comment-521 In reply to Hodge.

Blessed are the cheese makers. :-)

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By: Hodge /2010/12/20/an-alphabet-of-femininism-12-l-is-for-lady/#comment-520 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:58:57 +0000 http://www.badreputation.org.uk/?p=1557#comment-520 In reply to Hodge.

Thank you! by the way…

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By: Hodge /2010/12/20/an-alphabet-of-femininism-12-l-is-for-lady/#comment-519 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:58:37 +0000 http://www.badreputation.org.uk/?p=1557#comment-519 In reply to Pet Jeffery.

I am spending it working as a cheesemonger.

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By: Hodge /2010/12/20/an-alphabet-of-femininism-12-l-is-for-lady/#comment-518 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:58:00 +0000 http://www.badreputation.org.uk/?p=1557#comment-518 In reply to Pet Jeffery.

‘Lady’ is also a catch-all title for more specific statuses (‘duchess’, for example), where it would be roughly equivalent to ‘Sir’ (which could imply ‘viscount’, ‘count’, ‘duke’ etc, without any internal indication of what it means exactly).

As far as primogeniture is concerned, I will be addressing this very issue in later weeks! Curiously, it is France, which operated the Salic law throughout the time it had a monarchy, that gender is most important (‘No woman shall succeed in Salic land’), to the extent that a man tracing his claim through umpteen fathers and grandfathers could be booted off the throne by a single generational line running through a great-grandmother.

England’s history seems remarkably untroubled by such issues: while men get the throne first, their sisters are perfectly entitled to rule: witness Matilda, Mary I & II, Elizabeth I & II, Anne and Victoria. In fact, where these issues are concerned, England seems to rather venerate powerful women.

And as for the father / mother / legitimacy issue, another thing I had to cut out of ‘infant’ was just such an explanation for why medieval literature (in particular) is so full of uncle-nephew relationships. Your sister’s son was a safer bet than your wife’s. Thus Roland and Ganelon, but also, in inverted form, Arthur and Mordred, and the various Shakespeare uncles.

Am writing through flu. Probably very incoherent / simply restating many just-made points.

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By: Pet Jeffery /2010/12/20/an-alphabet-of-femininism-12-l-is-for-lady/#comment-517 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:11:53 +0000 http://www.badreputation.org.uk/?p=1557#comment-517 Oh, and have a lovely break, Hodge.

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By: Pet Jeffery /2010/12/20/an-alphabet-of-femininism-12-l-is-for-lady/#comment-516 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:10:12 +0000 http://www.badreputation.org.uk/?p=1557#comment-516 In some equality and diversity training, people are cautioned not to use the word “lady”, because it is taken to carry a class agenda. As in lords and ladies, I assume, which reminds me of the traditional words of the toastmaster (is there no toastmistress? probably not):

My lords, ladies and gentlemen…

This seems to assume that “lady” covers both women of noble birth and commoners. Could this have something to do with a lower status accorded to women? (Read: even women of noble birth are scarcely elevated above the common folk?) A lower status for noblewomen (than noblemen) seems implied by the institution of male primogeniture. Yet everyone knows which lady bore the young lord… who truly knows which lord or knave fathered him? Female primogeniture would make more sense, but would sit ill with the patriarchy.

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By: Aisling Kenny /2010/12/20/an-alphabet-of-femininism-12-l-is-for-lady/#comment-515 Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:55:16 +0000 http://www.badreputation.org.uk/?p=1557#comment-515 I see an excuse to bring up Little Musgrave! The Lady in that is a Lady, the kind with a castle and stuff probably. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0-gcccksAg
But really I just want an excuse to make people listen to it. :D
(ballad-spam is the next big thing, just you wait.)

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